City Council Meeting -Tax Hike
The agenda Has expenditures that will require the voters to pay higher taxes through a Proposition 2 1/2 override.
the full agenda is posted on COB Website
There are also expenditures that will need to be funded in future years but Condon stated there is only money to pay for these until June 30, 2016. If these items are approved now, the city is going to have push for additional taxes from the taxpayers.
Also, there is a recommendation that taxpayers pay higher fees for city services as well as higher water rates. The city council previously voted down the higher water rates but there maybe a vote to increase.
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All the appropriations that have been requested to be bonded have been requested by the Mayor. The CEO has stated that in order to fund the bond requests, we have to raise taxes via an Override. So don't tell me the Mayor hasn't requested a raise in taxes.
The Water Commission requested a rate increase and the CC has to approve. But the CEO has certified that in order to repair the Water Infrastructure as the Mayor has requested, there has to be a rate increase.
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How much are we charging for permits? What about fines? Can these be re evaluated for say code violations? The city needs to look elsewhere besides just picking our pockets.
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clifton heights wrote: Are they joking? If anything brings out the voters it will be a Prop 2-1/2 override ballot. I am fed up with this. I am angry, frustrated, and wonder how they think it is OK to ask for an override when they are unable to manage what they are getting now. They can't attract businesses, don't tax 711 churches, are unable to attract the middle class. I could go on and on and on, but it is well-documented on this site. Unacceptable.
In all fairness, whenever an industry shows interest in building in Brockton the "Knights who say No" come out of the woodwork. And in order to attract a business to build here, we lay down on our backs like whores and let them dictate what they are willing to pay. Case in point: Crown Cleaners. Incremental tax increases over the next 13 years beginning with a 95% tax cut the first 5 years. No increase in taxes when property values increase. No jobs to speak of either. So, there's that.
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a 2 1/2 override should never be used to pay for a shortfall in the budget, only for a debt exclusion, and they aren't asking for that.
And the police may make more than other towns, but they are also 75% the size they need to be, so if you compare bottom lines, the budget is probably the same.
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Voters will never approve a prop 2 1/2 override. Condon has said he can't certify the borrowing without the override. So what happens next?
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BrocktonDave wrote:
And the police may make more than other towns, but they are also 75% the size they need to be, so if you compare bottom lines, the budget is probably the same.
Such a cop-out of an argument. Look how many in the police department make over $200,000 per year. Look how many make more than $100K. Come on, I'd rather have 2 cops at $75K than one cop at $150K. Hate how people use this "I'm not in favor of tax increases unless its to fund the police" BS argument.
Apparently only people in blue are qualified to direct traffic around road construction? Quite lucrative for the officers. Then we have people on here complaining about how the force is so scarce. Shameful.
You can't fix stupid.
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Dennis M wrote:
BrocktonDave wrote:
And the police may make more than other towns, but they are also 75% the size they need to be, so if you compare bottom lines, the budget is probably the same.
Such a cop-out of an argument. Look how many in the police department make over $200,000 per year. Look how many make more than $100K. Come on, I'd rather have 2 cops at $75K than one cop at $150K. Hate how people use this "I'm not in favor of tax increases unless its to fund the police" BS argument.
Apparently only people in blue are qualified to direct traffic around road construction? Quite lucrative for the officers. Then we have people on here complaining about how the force is so scarce. Shameful.
if a job takes 5 people, and you only have 1... guess what... It's going to take at least 5 times as long, and it's going to cost 5 times as much. or you can do it in the same amount of time and it will cost 20 times as much. It's mathing...
As for details, that's a state law, and I agree that flagmen could do it. But the details are paid for by the company doing the job and have no impact on the police budget. 10 bucks out in details 10 bucks in from National Grid.
And the police force is too small, it's why they don't stop speeders and traffic scofflaws. There isn't time between shootings. Everyone is busy, there are a surprisingly low number of police cars on the road at some of the most dangerous times of the night. But, what do I know, I was married to a police woman for 10 years who dispatched all the calls on the midnight shift.
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and in part why the quality of life sucks so bad in brockton... i mean, not that it was ever stellar, but at least dispatch didn't have to resort to saying stuff like "sorry, but it's going to be a while before we get someone out there" when one calls to complain about a loud party at 1 a.m. with fighting in the street
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BrocktonDave wrote: And the police force is too small, it's why they don't stop speeders and traffic scofflaws. There isn't time between shootings. Everyone is busy, there are a surprisingly low number of police cars on the road at some of the most dangerous times of the night. But, what do I know, I was married to a police woman for 10 years who dispatched all the calls on the midnight shift.
It's a vicious cycle. The police force is so small because you have hundreds of people who don't want to give up their bloated OT 100-200K salaries. But yeah, increase taxes to keep funding the cycle. Makes sense to me.
When you look at public servant salaries and police make more money than some CEO's there is a problem.
You can't fix stupid.
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Dennis M wrote:
BrocktonDave wrote: And the police force is too small, it's why they don't stop speeders and traffic scofflaws. There isn't time between shootings. Everyone is busy, there are a surprisingly low number of police cars on the road at some of the most dangerous times of the night. But, what do I know, I was married to a police woman for 10 years who dispatched all the calls on the midnight shift.
It's a vicious cycle. The police force is so small because you have hundreds of people who don't want to give up their bloated OT 100-200K salaries. But yeah, increase taxes to keep funding the cycle. Makes sense to me.
When you look at public servant salaries and police make more money than some CEO's there is a problem.
I think I explained this... If you need OT to adapt to a shortfall in personnel that needs to happen. Hire enough people for the job and people won't have large overtime salaries. Also, like I said, if part of that OT is a detail, taxpayers don't pay for all that. which part was confusing. You need 5 people to do the job but only have 2... those 2 people need to work overtime.
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