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Posted: 22-January-10 at 10:01pm | IP Logged Quote Guests

Specifically, Stop and Shop on Belmont Street. 

Wrote this and encourage others to write S&S about this issue. Parking there has gotten really unsafe and way out of hand, in my opinion.  I wrote...   

Please voluntarily be responsible for, and immediately correct, your store's illegal and unsafe parking situation.  Expedite an end to the now blatant and very unsafe conditions at the entrances/exits at the Belmont Street, Brockton, MA Stop and Shop.

 

For months Stop and Shop has allowed vehicles to illegally park on both sides of the road just outside the store entrances/exits.

 

This situation is now so over the top that illegally parked drivers become very aggressive when even looked upon for more than a second or two as they defiantly block traffic; causing customers on foot and vehicles legally coming and going to and from the store to have to maneuver around their hazardously and illegally parked vehicles.

 

I am a long time customer and have witnessed Stop and Shop permit this problem to go from bad to worse.  Family, friends, acquaintances, even strangers and Stop and Shop employees I meet while shopping have commented on how Stop and Shop has let the parking situation deteriorate to this current dangerous level. 

 

Your customers have a right to expect a safe shopping experience and for vehicles on Stop and Shop property to be required to obey the law and park legally.  Quite reasonable expectations.

 

May you please see fit to immediately correct this most unacceptable situation.

 

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Posted: 23-January-10 at 12:46am | IP Logged Quote motcarla

John - are you talking about fire lane parking?  Right up against the front of the store ? Or out by the actual (Belmont) Street entrances?

I often run in there, but it's usually during hockey practice, so it's later at night.

When does this occcur?  I'll make a point to observe it and send along another request.

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Posted: 23-January-10 at 10:08am | IP Logged Quote Guests

I have spoken to more than one person when I am off duty about their parking in the middle of the travel lane at S & S. I agree it is rude and not correct, but not a ticketable offense I have also written a number of "fire lane" violations off duty. That being private property the only area that is regulated is the fire lane. I still say something to them when the park in the middle of the lane and boy the looks I get are priceless.
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Posted: 23-January-10 at 10:30am | IP Logged Quote Capt

    If this problem never existed before, when did it start and by who? Gotch yer answer.

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Yes, motcarla, people parking in the fire lanes, no parking areas and directly across from same right in front of the store.

Anyone who shops there from 9 to 7 p.m. has almost certainly experienced vehicles blocking the entrances as this appears to be the "normal" thing for growing numbers of people...ignore basic courtesy and the law.

I am referring to vehicles that park directly outside the entrance/exits and on both sides of the road creating a one lane road and the one lane is down the middle with the divider line between one's tires as you maneuver around these VIPs (very ignorant people).

Supermarket management needs to step up and take responsibility for their property and those who endanger by parking anywhere they like for as long as they like...especially blocking the entrance/exits, etc.



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Posted: 23-January-10 at 1:14pm | IP Logged Quote Tylee2k

John, I know this doesn't solve the problem but after shopping
at Roche Bros. I have not stepped foot in stop and shop or
shaws. It's cleaner, the staff is nicer, the parking is great, I
never wait in a line, and the list goes. Some tell me it's a bit
more expensive. I don't know about that; but, if it is, who
cares. The last time I hit those stores some crack head tried to
approach me while getting in my car. I am all set with that.

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John, I know this doesn't solve the problem but after shopping
at Roche Bros. I have not stepped foot in stop and shop or
shaws. It's cleaner, the staff is nicer, the parking is great, I
never wait in a line, and the list goes. Some tell me it's a bit
more expensive. I don't know about that; but, if it is, who
cares. The last time I hit those stores some crack head tried to
approach me while getting in my car. I am all set with that.

Wow, I think I know that you are no class bigot but what you write here is way off the point being made.  Sure, I also like shopping at Roche Bros. from time to time.  I also like the convenience of food shopping right here in Brockton at Stop and Shop, Shaw's, and occasionally even Price Rite.

I live in Brockton, I like Brockton, I like most of the people I meet in Brockton.

The point remains, supermarkets---Stop and Shop in this instance --- need to take responsibility for what goes on on their property.  They need to simply enforce basic rules such as no parking in other than a designated, legal, parking space. 

And most especially no illegal parking that blocks the entrances/exits.

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Posted: 23-January-10 at 7:23pm | IP Logged Quote Capt

    Go to any other Stop & Shop that isn't located in Brockton and you have your answer. Other Stop & Shop's don't have this problem. Figure it out yourself.
    I shop where the sales are and every time I've gone to Trucchi's, I walk away with a smile on my face, because the shopping experience is such a pleasure. The courtesy is above and beyond, it's super clean, neat and they go out of their way to help you. Shop in Brockton and go home with anger and disgust. I'm with Tylee! Brockton has allowed all of it's own disappointments and you might say-encourages it by not doing anything.

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Does anyone else here believe a business  - Stop and Shop on Belmont Street in this instance  -  should voluntarily step up and take responsibility for what happens on its property? 

Except for the parking problem, the Belmont Street Stop and Shop is a fine place.  It offers competitive pricing, a wide variety of products and courteous proficient workers.  Same with Brockton's other supermarkets.  Just my opinion, but being ashamed of, belittling, vilifying and defaming your city comes across as a form of self hate...how sad.

The topic remains about the parking situation. 

Feel free to begin a new topic on your personal shopping experiences in other, much smaller communities.  There certainly are other satisfying places to shop for food stuffs...including one of my favorites, "Trader Joe's." 

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Posted: 23-January-10 at 8:41pm | IP Logged Quote Capt

Does anyone else here believe a business - Stop and Shop on Belmont Street in this instance - should voluntarily step up and take responsibility for what happens on its property?
John,
    I'm sorry, but do you really even have to ask that question? Of course the store's manager should step up to the plate and take care of the problems with the business. That's what he's getting paid to do.
    As for people comparing other stores, it's natural for people to do comparisons in order to get their point across.
    What ever happened to the security that used to drive around the parking lots? Or the detailed cops? Hmm. You have your answer. You don't think a manager is going to walk up to a car full of ignorant people parked illegally and ask them, even politely, to move? Doubt it.

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Posted: 24-January-10 at 12:23am | IP Logged Quote motcarla

I am not familiar with the city codes or rules... BUT .... wouldn't a written warning from the City to S&S Corporate about allowing the fire lane violations to continue.... then ... perhaps a code enforcement type person (insert winky face here)  could "observe" the violations, and cite the vehicle operators AND the store?

After, of course, running all occupants of the vehicle thoroughly. (insert winky)

What I see alot of at all of the grocery stores, is someone pulling the car up to the front, to load up their groceries - hence blocking the travel way or fire lane.

The main problem is the parking lot being "private" property.  (the store COULD hire a tresspass tow company...if it cared to.)

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Posted: 24-January-10 at 8:02am | IP Logged Quote Guests

Carla et al: The fire lane is the only enforceable action that can be taken there. The rest of the property is private ( I know as invitees) and we have no right or authority to enforce the way people park.  Stupidity and Rudeness is not a crime, its a charater flaw.         & nbsp;     
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Quote: motcarla

I am not familiar with the city codes or rules... BUT .... wouldn't a written warning from the City to S&S Corporate about allowing the fire lane violations to continue.... then ... perhaps a code enforcement type person (insert winky face here)  could "observe" the violations, and cite the vehicle operators AND the store?

After, of course, running all occupants of the vehicle thoroughly. (insert winky)

What I see alot of at all of the grocery stores, is someone pulling the car up to the front, to load up their groceries - hence blocking the travel way or fire lane.

The main problem is the parking lot being "private" property.  (the store COULD hire a tresspass tow company...if it cared to.)

Thank you, motcarla, for offering some reality based solutions.  Tickets for fire lan violations which abound at S&S would be a great start.  Word of mouth, "so and so got ticketed" is a powerful tool.

Too bad it might take such action to motivate Stop and Shop.  But it is a solid idea.

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    Handicapped people unload their cars in their parking spaces. Why can't the ignorant people, who use fire lanes do the same? That's what carriages are for.
    If an actual fire ever arises and someone gets hurt will this problem get resolved. Sad to think that's what it'll take.

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Posted: 24-January-10 at 12:05pm | IP Logged Quote Tylee2k

Yes, John, I am not a classist, this is true. However, if I
spend my money, I would like for the experience to be ok.
There have been ongoing issues with both of the stores. I
have complained to the managers on duty in the past and
nothing really changed. If it's still the same don't they have
an officer on duty? That would likely help with the illegal
parking. The point is, it appears to be a managerial issue.
For example, if I were a manager and got a complaint
about loiterers I would likely ask the officer on duty to walk
through the parking lot. Especially for those like me, that
have to shop at night. There are a number of things that
could be done but again, it's a managerial issue. That said,
your complaints should find a regional or district manager.
I often find in retail that the store managers are ineffective.
Not always... often.

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Posted: 24-January-10 at 12:30pm | IP Logged Quote Ookla

The reality is, the BPD has more pressing issues than worrying about fire lane violations at Stop and Shop.  This happens everywhere in Brockton, cars idling in the fire lane or handicapped spot  while someone "runs in" to get something real quick.  Anyone ever say anything to people like this?? You quickly get told off and sworn at a million different ways -- pretty sad really.  Could S&S and the BPD work together in allowing the manager to take pictures of the license plate and then forwarding the info to the station and a ticket be mailed to the owner of the car??  Or even cameras like they have at toll booths and lights that take pictures of the license plates and automatically create a ticket. 
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    To make you feel better John, the Stop & Shop at N. Montello also has the parking problem, so I guess their manager isn't any better.
    One problem that was annoying was alcoholics and druggies sitting at the entrance begging for money or cig's. That finally got cleared up. People also complained to management about people who were soliciting smack dab in the middle of the entrance and exit door. People couldn't even maneuver their carriage to get past them.
    I guess what others and myself are saying is....Brockton appears to show no signs of improving even in their super markets. Who else can you blame except management, because this isn't seen at other super markets outside of Brockton. AMEN!
    Hey John, Brockton sucks!

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Posted: 24-January-10 at 12:45pm | IP Logged Quote Tylee2k

Ookla, is this true if the officers are doing a paid detail on the
premises??? I would think if that were the case well then...why
not look out the window and keep traffic moving? As I said, I
haven't been there in a while but I know Shaws had officers
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Posted: 24-January-10 at 1:49pm | IP Logged Quote Ookla

Shaw's on the East side used to ...haven't seen them in a while.  Maybe it's a wknd / late night gig.  I know nothing of the west side supermarkets as I rarely go to them.  If I need to go to a supermarket, I usually hit the S&S in Whitman, Trader Joe's in Hanover, and/or the Shaw's in Easton because it's close to work.  I can say that the Abington Walmart has an officer that routinely patrols the parking lot and kicks people out of the fire lane or handicapped spots...don't think it's a paid detail, just a cruise through the lot a couple of times a day. 
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Posted: 24-January-10 at 4:47pm | IP Logged Quote monkey70

I very rarely shop in brockton. All the stores are dirty, mgmnt sucks, parking is terrible, etc. I shop in easton (shaws, hannaford, roche) and for meat I go to the butcher shop in weymouth (Hilltop). I also go to walmart in abington or I prefer weymouth. When I go to S&S its in whitman. Funny that these stores dont have these issues at those locations. Hmmmm.

I would say its lack of mgmnt and general lack of caring by corp is the issue. Again you dont see this in other locales

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